Application Wishlist for GhostBSD

Izder456

personally, i do lots of gaming via emulation on my machines regardless of platform. many of the emulators/* ports in the tree disable sdl2 support by default, which is needed for supporting some controllers such as dualshocks or dualsenses. i feel this OPTION should be enabled across the board for any emulator that has that OPTION so emulation on ghostbsd is more viable. thoughts? (I have access to the git repos, so i can see if i can do this myself)

Izder456

I actually remove a couple things / add a couple other things immediately after install. :-) bye bye Evolution and RhythmBox, hello Screen and Irssi.

brianthehughes

considering how popular the telegram chat is, i could argue that should be in the base install too.

also, screen has memory allocation bugs and is unstable. it'd be better to have tmux as that is made by and for the *BSDs (its an OpenBSD project originally). the features are nearly identical, but tmux has a bit more configurability and is generally better software all around.

vimanuelt

Any new requests to add to the wishlist?

ericbsd

Since the GhostBSD live system runs entirely in RAM, adding more applications means a larger system in RAM, which means a higher RAM requirement to install GhostBSD. The same goes for drivers and firmware. As of now, it takes about 5GiB+ to install GhostBSD.

Robin

ericbsd To keep those RAM requirements low, you might offer a window manager instead of a full desktop environment - then let the user decide if (s)he wants a DE and which one. LXDE (legacy) is still supported a good option for low-end machines, too.

Applications - much more than desktop environments - are what uses up RAM in a hurry.

grahamperrin

ericbsd … As of now, it takes about 5GiB+ to install GhostBSD.

Is there variance, depending on hardware?

No problem with live boot and installation with 4,096 MB given to a VirtualBox guest. GhostBSD-25.01-R14.2p1.iso

{Screenshot: a VirtualBox guest, booting GhostBSD-25.01-R14.2p1.iso}

ericbsd

Robin The third-party drivers and firmware take up a lot of space. Remove all that, and you have a slimmer ISO. The next installer will have two sessions: the live one and the installer session. The system will enter both sessions and ask the user what to do: install or go to the live session. The installer session will run in a minimal environment.

vimanuelt

For Ubuntu users, there are more applications available by default. Are any of those apps that you would like to see by default. Do we want to pursue parity with Ubuntu, or something different?

ericbsd

vimanuelt I run Ubuntu for work, and it comes with way less than before. There is no media player by default now. At least the version IT installed is less than I remember.

Robin

I reckon that's up to @ericbsd . Parity with a big, heavy behemoth like Ubuntu isn't possible without needing a zillion and twelve terrabytes of RAM to install it, though, if I have understood him right.

vimanuelt

Yes, you are correct. Eric is responsible for the project. He is the project owner and maintainer. 😊

We should allow Eric to determine the contents of the ISO. He can specify the minimum RAM requirement. I have offered several options for change. He has chosen the direction, so we are all set.

ericbsd

grahamperrin you have not try GhostBSD-25.01-R14.2p3.iso!

vimanuelt

No. Pool.img is ₆ GiB before compression.

grahamperrin

ericbsd thanks, I'm not likely to test anything new until after the switch from FreeBSD to Linux. (Trying to wind things down in the FreeBSD environment.)

vimanuelt

The link is inaccessible at the moment. I'll try later. Thank you.

ericbsd

I am trying to see what takes all the same on the main server.

vimanuelt

ericbsd
Thank you, Eric. :-)

vimanuelt

I am currently running GhostBSD 25.01-R14.2p3, with the ISO built from the ghostbsd-build system. It will be interesting to examine the differences between this build and the release in GhostBSD's jenkins. :-)

ericbsd

It looks like it could be a problem with HDD Bottlenecks. It might be time to move everything to a system with SSDs.

ericbsd

Testing improvement

ericbsd

It looks like it's better. I have forced the minimum for 0 to 4 G. This has improved the situation. The server's inactive RAM takes up all the ARC that the server needs.