Mark all GhostBSD Wiki pages as deprecated?

BigSneakyDuck

The GhostBSD Wiki has had a deprecation notice on its Main Page since June 2021. However, the Wiki still tops many search engine results, even for pages which are clearly outdated: for example the top result in DuckDuckGo for "GhostBSD init system" is not a news article about the change back to FreeBSD's init system, but rather the GhostBSD Wiki page on OpenRC, even though this is no longer the init system!

These other pages do not have a deprecation notice on them, but probably deserve one. Pages which are known to be especially outdated, like OpenRC and the GhostBSD Boot Process, might best be deleted. Don't really want LLMs being trained on them!

Perhaps the "Welcome" template could be edited to include a deprecation notice as a quick way to mark all pages in the Wiki and direct more attention to the new documentation system?

grahamperrin

BigSneakyDuck The GhostBSD Wiki has had a deprecation notice on its Main Page since June 2021

The main page – redirected from https://wiki.ghostbsd.org/ – is now more clearly DISCONTINUED – with a single, uncluttered, unmistakable link to the new documentation portal.

With regard to AI/LLM, I'll not attempt any more adventurous edit to the wiki.

DuckDuckGo has its footnote,

… AI chats may display inaccurate or offensive information.

Whilst that's not a substitute for accurate sources :-) I shouldn't fret. Anyone who's meaningfully curious about GhostBSD should find their way to https://www.ghostbsd.org/ – a simple, elegant and informative page for a simple, elegant OS. The link to news is prominent, and so on.

BigSneakyDuck

Re the LLM issue, asking the free ones on DuckDuckGo Chat the question "What init system does GhostBSD use?" gets several wrong answers:

GPT-4o mini: "GhostBSD uses the OpenRC init system. ..."
Claude 3 Haiku: "GhostBSD, a FreeBSD-based operating system, uses the OpenRC init system. ..."
Mistral Small 3: "GhostBSD uses the OpenRC init system. ..."

Note GPT-4o mini is trained on data up to October 2023, and Claude Haiku to August 2023, so about two years after GhostBSD switched back from OpenRC. Better answers came from:

Llama 3.3 70B: "GhostBSD uses the RC init system, which is also used by FreeBSD."
o3-mini: "... GhostBSD uses the FreeBSD rc(8) init system and its accompanying rc.d scripts for service management."

Llama 3.3 70B was trained on data up to December 2023, and o3-mini to October 2023, so the issue here isn't the recency of the data, but the quality.

Given how many people are scarily reliant on LLM advice, it seems a good idea to get outdated training data removed from circulation.

vimanuelt

Since there are multiple sources that could influence LLM results beyond the wiki, renaming GhostBSD might help mitigate the issue. This possibility was discussed several years ago. The decision ultimately rests with Eric.

brianthehughes

I feel like the new documentation portal could absorb any of the still relevant information and the wiki could be retired.

While I reviewed content there a couple times in the last year, there is limited current info and the ‘resource’ does split search/ai results.

vimanuelt

Yes, I agree. Retiring the wiki is a good idea, as it serves more as a historical artifact than a reliable source of truth.