NevilleGoddard wrote:Also sometimes the live usb wont make it to the desktop for some reason. It freezes after selecting "startxfce4" after starting to do this for a while it just stops at starting thunar, or starting desktop manager. Sometimes it will get to desktop with dark grey wallpaper, not the default wallpaper. Maybe there's something wrong with my machine, I don't know.
Confirmed, it is definitely not your machine. However I'd say the Xfce version rather unproblematic compared to MATE in Alpha 1... I've tried to install it on three machines and I needed lots
of patience - X11 starts up just fine but that's it most of the time. In 9 out of 10 attempts I'm left with a black screen with the white arrow cursor. I can move it but clicking does not do anything. Waiting a while sometimes (rarely, though) leads to the background being loaded eventually but it definitely won't continue after that and I have to restart the machine. In some cases instead of the arrow cursor the "busy" cursor is shown. In about 10% of my attempts the desktop background is displayed quickly like it should. In most cases however, things stop right there again and the panel or the desktop icons never appear...
Ironically my very first attempt worked just like it should but I chose the wrong bootloader. Trying again exposed the long line of problems described above. I tried various computers and laptops and this is common behavior unfortunately. As it worked once, I didn't give up until it worked a second time. And a day later I tried out Xfce which had the "dark grey" issue the first time and worked at the second attempt. Since then I have been unable to install MATE again (with the Alpha 1 ISO). I'm not exaggerating when I say that so far it has only worked twice in way over 100 attempts (I've been repeating this for hours while doing some reading). The second time I managed to get a working live session I looked at X11's log but didn't find clue of what went differently from the other attempts. Haven't had any luck on real hardware since then.
On virtualbox MATE usually starts fine (however the "Auto Video Configuration" option is needed). It tends to "hang", though, so that the menu cannot actually be used. Sometimes when that is the case black artifacts are shown in the panel. Haven't tried out the 32 bit image, yet.